President Trump Should Keep His Promise on Vaccine Safety

President Trump Should Keep His Promise on Vaccine Safety

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(By Roger Stone) Donald J. Trump cares about people and especially for the citizens of the United States of America. He sacrificed more than most can ever know in order to do his utmost to make America great again. He and his family are to this day suffering the slings and arrows of an out-of-control political class that seeks nothing less than their total destruction. As his first year draws to a close, however, his list of achievements impresses even his harshest critics. Cutting red tape, rebuilding our military, and restoring respect for America worldwide are but a few of his dozens of monumental achievements, but there is still much more work to do.

President Trump also stands against corruption and seeks to shine truth wherever he can in his desire to drain The Swamp.  The Swamp is not only the embedded political class and the federal bureaucracies but also corrupted special interests that seek their own gain at everyone else’s expense.  Big Medicine and Big Pharma are two such special interest that have shielded their own from scrutiny by gaming the system and gaslighting their victims.

Only a couple of months into his presidency, in March 2017, Donald Trump launched a special commission to investigate the opioid crisis that is wreaking havoc across the United States.  He declared it a national emergency and has taken on Big Medicine and Big Pharma by calling them out.

Roger Stone

While on the campaign trail, then Candidate Trump promised to do whatever he could to help end the opiate scourge upon America, and he kept true to his word regardless of the pressures put upon him. Post-election he promised to appoint a special commission to investigate vaccine safety, however this is an important promise he has yet to keep.

There are significant studies that call into question the Status Quo party line that vaccines are safe. While the technology of applying a vaccine to preemptively shield against an illness is well studied and has proven efficacy, the actual industry of creating the vaccines that get pumped into Americans has undergone less scrutiny.

Through out his public life President Trump has repeatedly questioned the safety of vaccinations. While president elect he said he would appoint a commission headed by Robert F Kennedy Jr. the son of former attorney general and US Sen. Robert Kennedy to study the safety of the growingly mandatory vaccinations in widespread use in this country

Contrary to the oft-repeated claim that vaccines are safe and effective, statistical evidence has piled up showing them to be potentially toxic. They may cause injuries greater than the public realizes and sometimes can be riskier than catching the diseases the vaccines are supposed to stop.  Mounting testimonials are piling up from suffering families who are absolutely convinced that a vaccine destroyed their child’s life.

Incredibly California congressmen Adam Schiff has sponsored a House Resolution that incredibly claims that no US citizen has ever been damaged by vaccination and that the US government has never paid out a penny to any citizen damaged in this manner. This is akin to sponsoring a House Resolution which claims that the Holocaust never happened. In fact, the US government has paid out more than $3.5 billion to individuals damaged by vaccinations that we are told are safe. Schiff’s groveling for big Pharma campaign contributions is just another reason why I say ” if it’s Schiff- flush it !”

It is not only the young who are at risk. A recently published study showed that the H1N1 flu vaccine was associated with a seven-fold increase in miscarriages when administered to pregnant women. The suffering that this vaccine has caused expecting mothers is unimaginable. Where is the press coverage on this finding? Why isn’t the CDC directing the flu vaccine not to be given to pregnant women?

Fake News Media outlets refuse to cover the vaccine controversies because they receive enormous revenue from advertising on behalf of pharmaceutical companies. Some of the most watched programs on Mainstream Media receive up to seventy percent of their ad revenue from Big Pharma and Big Medicine.

Perhaps the CDC is not the protector of public health it is mandated to be, but is rather more a protector of itself and its own vested interests. It has now been three years since Dr. William Thompson, a CDC scientist who co-authored several studies claiming that vaccines were safe admitted that he and fellow CDC scientists committed fraud with the destruction of government records, because the data showed a clear correlation the vaccines cause autism.

In 2014 Thompson confirmed what many vaccine safety advocates had been saying for years: the CDC is a cesspool of corruption and corporate influence.

A recent report by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s World Mercury Project on the activities surrounding the criminal indictment of former CDC fraudster, Poul Thorsen, clearly shows that CDC staff aided, abetted and helped cover up Thorsen’s schemes to create fraudulent research for the benefit of the government’s defense in the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, otherwise known as “Vaccine Court.” The outsourced fraudulent science by indicted Danish scientist, Poul Thorsen, is still being used to deny compensation to families who brought claims in the Vaccine Court that their children developed autism following vaccine injuries.

Thousands of families had their cases alleging vaccine induced autism in the “Omnibus Autism Proceedings” dismissed in the Vaccine Court based on the science that Thorsen authored as well as that of Dr. William Thompson now admits it was also fraudulent.

More than 5,000 cases thrown out of Vaccine Court deserve to have the hearings they were never granted and the families deserve compensation. Instead of being treated fairly, with respect and compassion, the government treated them as road kill and allowed them to be victims of the greatest scientific and legal fraud in the nation’s history. Despite this the so-called Vaccination Court has ordered the payout of over $3.5 billion to US citizens damaged by vaccinations.

Thorsen never filed the necessary documents to receive approval for his fraudulent studies from an Institutional Review Board, manipulated or excluded data in studies—just as Thompson says CDC researchers did—and then stole more than one million dollars from U.S. taxpayers. Poul Thorsen has been under a 22-count indictment and remains a fugitive from the Office of the Inspector General of the Secretary of Health and Human Services and U.S. DOJ for over six years. He continues to live openly in Denmark, a free man, working on projects still funded by the CDC and NIH.

CDC researchers have maintained regular contact with Thorsen. In fact, Thorsen long-time CDC scientist girlfriend, Dr. Diana Schendel, retired from the agency and today works at the same Danish university where Thorsen committed his crimes. The fake science he published has never been retracted and is still used to claim that vaccines are safe, effective and not linked to autism.

On Thorsen: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., WMP Chairman, stated “World Mercury Project calls upon Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, to extradite Thorsen back to the U.S. to face prosecution. We also call upon Secretary of Health and Human Services, Dr. Tom Price, to retract the Thorsen-affiliated autism research papers that are the fruit of illegally conducted research.”

Fraudulent research, failing to follow ethical standards, theft of taxpayer dollars, cover-ups, destruction of data, families denied justice, federal warrants that sit for years while fraudster scientists laugh at America, vaccine injuries that result in children with brain damage, lost pregnancies, and even deaths.

No one ever thought draining The Swamp would be easy, as the vested interests are not going to go quietly. President Trump didn’t do himself any favors by allowing his Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price, M.D. to appoint pro-vaccine Brenda Fitzgerald, M.D. as CDC Director and Administrator of the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) in July of 2017.

While it is true President Trump has been besieged on all sides precisely because he is upsetting the corrupt Status Quo, he undermines his own support by allowing partisan agenda driven individuals into positions of power. In April 2017 Fitzgerald, then commissioner of the Georgia Department of Public Health, demonstrated that she does not have the impartiality required to be ultimate head of an investigation into vaccines by stating “Immunizations are the best way to protect infants and children from childhood diseases, like whooping cough and measles that can be life-threatening at young ages”, and “It is critical for parents to talk to their child’s doctor to ensure they are up-to-date on immunizations, because no child should have to suffer a vaccine-preventable illness.” These do not sound like the words of someone with an open mind towards investigating vaccine safety.

Now that he’s got the Deep State on defense, he should press his advantage by fulfilling his promises that gained him cross-party support that helped get him elected. He must move forward with his promise of appointing Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to lead a special commission to investigate vaccine safety, a Vaccine Safety Commission. This special commission should be empowered with the access and support necessary to take their investigation where ever it may lead.

American newborns, children, their families and the very fabric of American society relies on President Trump acting quickly to uncover the real truth about vaccine safety. If it is true that some of today’s vaccines are unsafe, then delay means needless continued suffering and destroyed lives.

Sources:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/donald-trump-robert-f-kennedy-jr-vaccines

http://fortune.com/2017/02/16/donald-trump-autism-vaccines/

https://morningconsult.com/2017/04/20/despite-campaign-rhetoric-trump-mostly-silent-vaccine-policy/

http://www.nature.com/news/trump-s-vaccine-commission-idea-is-biased-and-dangerous-1.21310

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/01/trump-taps-vaccine-skeptic-to-chair-committee-on-vaccine-safety/512708/

https://www.fiercepharma.com/vaccines/trump-administration-picks-pro-vaccine-cdc-director

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2017/07/07/Secretary-Price-Appoints-Brenda-Fitzgerald-as-CDC-Director-and-ATSDR-Administrator.html

https://www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/tvfilm/dispatches-trump-the-doctor-and-the-vaccine-scandal-everything-you-need-to-know-a3533746.html

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/robert-f-kennedy-jr-trump-vaccine-safety-commission-235058

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1389/change-vaccination-schedule-children/

https://www.gachd.org/cdc-georgias-early-childhood-vaccination-rates-among-nations-highest/

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  1. The way I see it, the problem with vaccines is not a that they are intrinsically harmful; it is the manner in which they are produced. Sloppy methods in production including cutbacks in safety precautions that give the pharmaceutical manufacturers kickbacks, failure to conduct adequate testing, and fraudulent reports are some of the reasons vaccines have become dangerous. Thank God for the first polio vaccines when I was a child. Jonas Salk, who successfully developed the vaccine, was motivated to eradicate the disease, not to sell dangerous BS to the American public for profit.

    1. Daisy,

      The vaccine program of today is nothing like the one you had. You had about 10 doses of vaccine, starting before you entered school.

      Today children recieve 70 doses, starting on the day of birth, and 8 at a time starting at 2 months. And there is NO research to show that this is safe. And vaccine makers are no long liable for death and disability from their products. It has become a nightmare.

      1. There is more research that vaccines are safe than any single medical product or intervention in the history of the world. There are over 200,000 peer-reviewed studies on vaccines alone on pubmed. The IOM has studied the complete childhood vaccine schedule and found it to be safe.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24901198

        They say if we don’t learn from history we are doomed to repeat it and “Ginger” seems to want us to return to a time where vaccine manufacturers could stop making life-saving vaccines and thus create a major shortage and epidemic in our country. One only has to look at Europe in 2017 to see the damage that lowering vaccination rates can have. Approaching 20,000 infected with measles, 90% unvaccinated with almost 50 dead, almost ALL unvaccinated. This is tragic but it could get much worse in the US.

        The VICP was created to to provide a streamlined system for compensation in rare instances where an injury results from vaccination. Over the past 21 years, the VICP has succeeded in providing a “less adversarial, less expensive, and less time-consuming system of recovery than the traditional tort system that governs medical malpractice, personal injury, and product liability cases.”

        A common misunderstanding is that the VICP shields manufacturers from all liability; it does not. They are still subject to manufacturing and labeling defect claims in the civil court.

        From 2006 to 2016 over 3.1 billion doses of covered vaccines were distributed in the U.S. For petitions filed in this time period, 5,301 petitions were adjudicated by the Court, and of those 3,583 were compensated. This means for every 1 million doses of vaccine that were distributed, 1 individual was compensated. This is an INCREDIBLE safety record, and one almost no medical intervention or drug in human history can boast.

        Unlike the misinformation of the above poster, “an individual who is dissatisfied with the Court’s final judgment can reject it and file a lawsuit in State or Federal court.”

        The reason so few have chosen this option is because civil trials are MORE expensive, take MORE time and are HARDER to win.

        The government program is funded by a tax paid by vaccine manufacturers for every vaccine they sell. The act was created through a joint effort by the Federal government, parents, and vaccine manufacturers as a no-fault system that aimed to provide families with a more rapid process than the civil courts, more generous legal standards, and less financial burden. The program also protects manufacturers from lawsuits based on design defect claims (i.e., that the very design of the vaccine is bad and irreparably dangerous), some of which had no merit, and which threatened to drive companies to abandon vaccines altogether before the passage of the act.

        in the civil court, plaintiffs must meet a higher burden of proof that the vaccine caused the injury. They must show that the vaccine’s design was defective, that the defect caused the injury, that the risk of the vaccine is greater than the utility of it, and they must provide scientific evidence, subject to the Daubert Standard, to support their claim. By contrast, in VICP, they do not need to show that the vaccine was defective, and in many cases they need not even provide any evidence that the vaccine can cause the injury claimed. All they need to do is show that the injury either meets the requirements for a table injury or that there is a plausible mechanism and timing by which the vaccine might cause such an injury (the Althen Standard for causation, i.e., a medical theory causally connecting the vaccine and injury, a logical sequence of cause and effect, and a reasonable temporal relationship between the vaccination and the injury). In other words, the plaintiff would have a much harder time proving their case in civil court than in VICP.

        Then there is the financial burden. The civil court favors those who have more money in a few different ways. First there’s the process of discovery, which is allowed (and required) in civil court, but may be optionally allowed in VICP. While discovery may allow the plaintiff to find information that may help their case, the party with more money (i.e., the vaccine companies) could draw this process out, costing the plaintiff more money and delaying resolution of their case. Second, lawsuits cost a lot of money in general. There are attorneys’ fees, expert witness fees, and so on. Under VICP, whether the claimant wins or loses their case, their legal costs (within reason) are covered and paid for by the program. In civil court, they would need to foot the bill themselves. That could bankrupt a family who may already be dealing with expensive medical bills.

        At the end of the day, while repealing the NCVIA would potentially allow manufacturers to be “punished”, the reality is that families who are actually harmed by vaccines would be the ones that would lose out. And as much as anti-vaccine activists and their followers complain about the VICP, they would have a much more difficult time of things in civil court.

        People like myself and others who stand up for science & children have no financial or professional motivation. I have no ties to anything related to science. I own my own small business and work at home with my children. I’m only here for the children.

        We can never forget them.

      2. Ginger Taylor: “And vaccine makers are no long liable for death and disability from their products. It has become a nightmare.”

        Rule 12. Election

        (a) In General. Within 90 days after the entry of judgment under Vaccine Rule 11, petitioner must file with the clerk an election either:
        ……………… (1) to accept the judgment; or
        ……………… (2) to file a civil action for damages for the alleged injury or death.”

        … …

        And I trust that you will be honest enough to correct/edit your post/comment, Ginger Taylor?

        1. I believe that the judgment is to the government vaccine injury court and not the pharmaceutical companies nor the doctors.

          1. “(2) to file a CIVIL action for damages for the alleged injury or death.”
            Key word is civil….like Blackwell v. Wyeth….the ruling is on-line and worth read.
            W&N

      3. ” And vaccine makers are no long liable for death and disability from their products.”
        Interesting….if one reads the words…then the law, the SCOTUS, and the NVICP site all the same thing…all US families can sue!
        Of course if one reads Blackwell v. Wyeth then one sees how the vaccines cause autism fraud was exposed…
        Strange how you keep forgetting the basic facts!
        W&N

  2. I had all the vaccines when I was a kid but today I refuse to get a flu shot. I agree with Roger Stone when he says the president must appoint Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. right now to investigate vaccine safety. The comission will need “the access and support necessary” to force Big Pharma to produce safe vaccines. Otherwise Big Pharma will go on poisoning our kids.

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    2. Manhorace: “The commission will need “the access and support necessary” to force Big Pharma to produce safe vaccines.”

      … …

      For any interested reader.. addressing the common questions that are raised about the safety profiles of vaccines (pre-licensure): FDA | “Vaccine Product Approval Process”

      (See also: Vaccinate Your Baby | “Too Many Vaccines?

      “Finally, all vaccines are subjected to concomitant studies before they are approved
      for use, meaning that all new vaccines must be tested in conjunction with existing ones to ensure there are no negative interactions. Regulatory agencies such as the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) are careful to look for any side effects associated with concomitant use before approving a new vaccine.” )

      Further.. post-licensure/post-marketing surveillance of vaccines:

      1) Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)
      2) Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD)

      … …

      The Reader’s Digest version, or, TL:DR for all of the above can be found at: FDA | “Ensuring the Safety of Vaccines in the United States

      1. “Finally, all vaccines are subjected to concomitant studies before they are approved
        for use, meaning that all new vaccines must be tested in conjunction with existing ones to ensure there are no negative interactions. Regulatory agencies such as the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) are careful to look for any side effects associated with concomitant use before approving a new vaccine.” ) You do realize that means new vaccines are only tested against the ‘old ones’? That’s not a very good control group.

        1. Well no, that’s not what it means. They’re tested in combination with the existing vaccines in the schedule, in addition to being tested individually. What better control group could there be?

          1. Complete bullshit! The vaccine schedule has NOT been tested in this way! They DO NOT, HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT conduct studies using the GOLD STANDARD – inert placebo based control group. And they most certainly have never tested the cumulative effect of the vaccine schedule OR combination of vaccines given at one time …

          2. If I show you a handful of studies where vaccines are tested in combination, will you retract your comment?

            If I show you a handful of studies about the entire vaccine schedule, will you retract your comment?

          3. Please produce the studies. They don’t exist. While you’re at it, why don’t you produce the study that prices it is safe to inject infants with mercury? If you can, there’s a $100,000.00 reward being offered by RFK Jr
            I’ll wait for your reply

          4. No, she will keep on moving the goalposts.
            If she can still find them, that is, since she has shifted them out the solar system already. They could be anywhere by now.

          5. “Please produce the studies. They don’t exist.”
            How can a person be functionally literate and believe your BS????
            W&N

          6. still waiting…

            It’s a simple question. If you are right, then you have nothing to change. If you are wrong, then you get to put your mistake behind you and learn something new! It’s a win either way. The only way you lose is if you are both wrong and refuse to admit it.

          7. I’ll happily take a look at the “handful of studies” you claim you can produce, and if I am wrong I’ll readily admit it. I’m never ashamed or afraid to admit I’m wrong and am glad when I find a mistake so that I can correct it.
            However, I’m pretty confident after the years of research I’ve done that there’s never been a single study proving that giving multiple injections at once. No study has been done looking at the effects of the cumulative schedule – what happens when we’re giving up to 27 antigens in up to 8 injections – to a 2, 4, 6 month old baby???
            Here’s one answer:
            https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=583030258710921&id=272455363101747

          8. If you can produce the studies, I’ll happily retract my statement. Remember, we are talking about your comment:

            “If I show you a handful of studies where vaccines are tested in combination, will you retract your comment?

            If I show you a handful of studies about the entire vaccine schedule, will you retract your comment?”

            Produce the studies.

            I’m looking for a handful of studies which means at least 3 or 4 – where they tested the SAFETY of injecting MULTIPLE vaccines at once against a control group who did not recieve any vaccines.

            I’m looking for a handful, 3 or 4 studies where they tested the SAFETY of the ENTIRE childhood vaccine schedule
            (Which by the way is now up to 74 vaccines by the age 18, 36 of which they will recieve in the first 2 years of life) and I’ll only accept studies where they looked at the schedule of the fully vaccinates with the partially vaccinated AND the unvaccinated. Because that’s really the only way to know if the schedule is safe.

            I’ll wait for these studies you say exist

          9. It’s great that you are willing to admit when you are wrong.

            Yes, there have been several studies that look at vaccines in combination. Here’s a few I found:
            -White et al. (1997) did a study looking at varicella, MMR, DTaP, and Polio vaccines in combination. PMID: 9142794
            -Reumann et al. (1997) conducted a vaccine safety study looking at MMRV and HiB in combination. PMID: 9239770
            -The Pediarix vaccine insert discusses a combination study with HiB, PCV, Polio, DTaP, and Hep B
            -The gardasil vaccine insert discusses a combination study with HPV, Meningococcal, Tdap

            Now you know that combination studies do exist. They happen with every new vaccine, and have been going on for decades.

          10. First of all, I thought you were going to provide the actual studies. Where’s the links?
            Second, I don’t see any studies looking at the entire cumulative schedule. That’s 78 vaccines by age 18.
            Where are the vaccinated vs unvaccinated studies? The gold standard of scientific study requires a true control group.
            Still. Waiting.

          11. Just like I expected, you move the goalposts when proven wrong.

            Why didn’t you look up the sources I already gave you? W&N also already gave you a link listing literally hundreds of studies.

            Are you choosing to ignore the facts?

          12. “Measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella combination vaccine: safety and immunogenicity alone and in combination with other vaccines given to children. Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Varicella Vaccine Study Group.
            White CJ1, Stinson D, Staehle B, Cho I, Matthews H, Ngai A, Keller P, Eiden J, Kuter B.
            Author information
            Abstract
            Eight hundred and twelve children, 12 months to 3.5 years of age, were enrolled in two clinical studies to evaluate the safety and immunogenicity of a live, attenuated combination vaccine for measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella (MMRV). Children were enrolled in one of two randomized, multicenter studies, involving administration of (1) MMRV and placebo vs. measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (M-M-R(II)) and varicella-zoster virus vaccine (VARIVAX), given at separate anatomic sites at the same office visit; or (2) MMRV, DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus, and acellular pertussis vaccine) and OPV (oral polio vaccine) vs. M-M-R(II), DTaP, and OPV, with VARIVAX given 6 weeks later. All vaccine regimens were generally well tolerated. More than 95% of vaccinees seroconverted for measles, mumps, rubella, and varicella, regardless of the vaccine or regimen used. In each study, the level of antibody titer to varicella virus was significantly lower in vaccinees receiving MMRV than in those who received VARIVAX in a separate syringe.”

            So, you have proven my point for me, with your very first reference.
            I said, “vaccines are not tested against true placebos.”
            They are not. They are tested against OTHER vaccines.

            This study was designed to simply test a combo shot against the same vaccines in separate injections. There were no children who received an inert placebo. They shot the kids up with the same vaccines in each group! One group just more shots. And the adverse events were fairly consistant in each group. HMMM.
            They gave BOTH groups poison, and they fared about the same.

          13. Too bad it never occurred to you to check what the word placebo means or the correct use of placebos in trials….can’t have facts intruding on your anti-vacc views now can we!
            W&N

          14. HPV vaccine was tested against other vaccines. The control group was the other vaccines. INSTEAD of an inert placebo. Both groups had the same or similar outcomes. They both got poison. You are proving my case for me. Keep going!
            Still haven’t seen a true placebo group in vaccine testing … maybe you should look for a unicorn instead? Might be easier to find.

          15. Perhaps you should read some articles about the ethics of testing vaccines against placebos, and see what the guidelines say. They might be able to stem your tide of ignorance on the topic.
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4157320/
            http://hrc.govt.nz/sites/default/files/23972%20HRC%20Ethics_1114-online.pdf

            Where feasible, saline placebos are used, but I hope you appreciate that for established vaccines it is unethical, immoral, illegal and dangerous to use an inert placebo in most situations, since this leaves children unprotected against serious diseases. You don’t want to see another version of the Tuskegee study do you? (Maybe you do?)
            Here are some of the trial results on rotavirus vaccine. They used an inert, saline placebo. There were over 100,000 subjects in this trial (but all rotavirus vaccine trials used saline placebo)
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24047799

          16. For your information, there’s already another TUSKEGEE experiment going on RIGHT NOW.
            Thank the CDC and their fraud.
            As for it being unethical to withhold POISON from a group of children I wholeheartedly disagree. So you think that we should POISON ALL children, to protect the pharmaceutical industry profits? Because that’s what this is really about.

          17. Hmm…

            You were shown vaccine studies in combination, which you said don’t exist.
            You were shown studies about the vaccine schedule, which you said don’t exist.
            You were shown studies that used saline placebos, which you said don’t exist.
            You were informed when and why particular studies aren’t possible because they’d be dangerous and illegal.

            After all this, instead of retracting your comment as promised, you deflect with “CONSPIRACY”!!!

          18. Wow, you really need to take a step back, get out of your echo chamber, ABC do sound critical thinking. The information is being spoon fed to you. You just need to open your brain and correct your misinformation.

          19. Let’s summarize.
            1. we have proven that saline placebos are used and you ignore the facts and just keep posting falsehoods.
            2. you have zero understanding of placebos and just keep asserting silly things,
            3, we have proven that the entire vaccine schedule is tested for safety and you ignore the facts.
            4. there are no poisons in vaccines, even though you have zero understanding of the subject you just make assertions rather than checking with toxicologists.
            5. your claim that vaccines are simply for pharmaceutical profits has an obvious error and the argument is predicated on a complete failure to think….even a little bit.
            The reason why you are marginalized to posting BS on the Net is because you simply can’t offer a rational thought!
            Thanks for proving this!
            W&N

          20. “Still haven’t seen a true placebo group in vaccine testing ”
            The words “saline placebo” are still posted right above here.
            But if you simply don’t care about the facts it is pointless to even try and explain that you grossly and totally misunderstand placebos…..just anti-vacc 101!
            W&N

          21. Oh, dear. I believe you’ve made my point for me. Wow. I wish I could retract my statement, but just looking at the first study you present … I just can’t. Have to stand behind my words, I’m afraid.

          22. Lol.

            You said yourself that vaccines had never been tested in combination, which is obviously false. I showed you a few studies I found in a few minutes. There are tons more.

            You are obviously free to deny reality, but you have no one but yourself to blame for your ignorance.

          23. Another anti-vaccine myth is that “the vaccine schedule has never been studied”. This is nonsense. Scientists aren’t stupid, and have been constantly studying the schedule ever since the vaccine schedule existed.

            Since 1990, the Vaccine Safety Datalink project has been constantly studying the safety of the entire vaccine schedule. It has already yielded over sixty scientific studies. You can find them online.

            Now you know.

          24. Oh dear….here is a 220 page summary of safety testing of the entire vaccine schedule: https://www.nap.edu/read/13563/chapter/2

            “Each new vaccine considered for inclusion in the immunization schedule is tested within the context of the ***existing schedule*** and reviewed by clinical researchers, who analyze the balance of demonstrated benefits and risks. Thus, each new vaccine is approved on the basis of a detailed evaluation of both the vaccine itself and the immunization schedule.”
            Well that was easy!
            W&N

          25. Lmfao. There hasn’t been any mercury in childhood vaccines for a decade. Your comment is ill-informed, and irrelevant. Oh, and RFK Jr. isn’t a doctor or scientist, so who cares what he thinks?

          26. Brian, You misunderstand. Yes, I know there have been vaccines studies using multiple vaccines as placebo. Please show studies where Vaxxed vs No vaxx at all! I really sincerely would love to see!! I’m unaware of their existance

          27. Are you referring to a study where they deliberately withhold every vaccine that has already been proven to work? That would be stupid, dangerous, and illegal.

            As an example- your car has many safety features to protect you from potential crashes: seat belts, anti-lock breaks, crush-zones, computer software, airbags, and on and on.

            If a new safety feature was proposed to make cars safer, it makes sense that the feature be tested in isolation (like in a lab setting), as well as in conjunction with all of the other safety features that have already been proven to work (incorporated into an actual car). It would be nonsensical to remove every other safety feature from a car to use as a “control” in such studies.

          28. This is not a study. It is a survey. A poorly constructed one, at that. The “vaccinated” group was anyone who had had at least ONE vaccine, while the “unvaccinated” group was anyone who couldn’t produce vaccination records. The unvaccinated group size is WAY too small for any accuracy. The entire survey relied on parental reports – if I gave you a study performed this way you would rip it apart, and rightly so.
            This is NOT a clinical trial where one group was given a vaccine and the other an INERT PLACEBO.
            This survey also only looked at the prevalence of vaccine preventable diseases and atopic diseases. Clearly it is not even designed to look for long term health outcomes that are what we who question vaccine safety are concerned about.
            So, anyway. You keep giving links to things that don’t actually prove what you think they do, and you clearly lack the critical thinking skills to figure that out. I don’t want you to mistake my refusal to engage with you further as evidence that you have won this debate. In fact, you’ve disqualified yourself from further discourse.

          29. Nope,

            I posted a typical epidemiological study….which is why it was published in a scientific journal.

            You could have acknowledged the obvious fact: the anti-vaccs just don’t tell the truth.

            But instead you posted a mindless…not even functionally literate rant.

            But hey, if you want to make the anti-vaccs looks silly, well who am I to complain???

            W&N

          30. Takes most folks about 1 second to Google “vaccine double-blind saline placebo”….most folks anyway….
            Then there are the anti-vaccs who think that swearing is a substitute for reading….
            W&N

          31. Gosh, it would have been much faster for you to just do the search: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&q=vaccines+double+blind+saline+placebo&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5&as_vis=1

            There are many 1000s…like….http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/712939/efficacy-influenza-vaccination-hiv-infected-persons-randomized-double-blind-placebo

            “Intervention: Influenza vaccine (n = 55) or saline placebo (n = 47).”

            Or….http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673696120316

            “…were immunised parenterally with either monovalent live attenuated (RA27/ 3 strain) rubella vaccine (n=270) or saline placebo (n=276)….”
            Why don’t you read a bunch to convince yourself and then we can go on to the studies on the entire vaccine schedule.
            W&N

          32. Hey…I proved to you that vaccines are tested against saline placebos…..why don’t you care about the facts?
            W&N

          33. Thank you Tia Severino!! I grew tired of defending my opinion, quickly. Lol . ProVaxxers say that in order to conduct a study with a true unvaxxed placebo group wouldn’t be ethical bc those kids NeeD the vaccines, damnit! -Bullshit. They are terrified of the truth!

          34. umm… Tia Severino was proven wrong downthread, so I’m not sure what your thanking her for.

          35. Hey….you can’t even articulate the problems…much less offer a rational thought on the subject!
            W&N

          36. They think they won because I refuse to engage with them anymore. All the studies they have produced actually prove exactly what I am saying, and they are too stupid to realize it. But considering they are paid trolls, it is of no use to waste my time arguing. People with actual brains who are reading this can do their own research and find out for themselves that vaccine science is synonymous with fraud.
            Wait, because the next thing they will do is hurl insults at me because they absolutely have to have the final word. It’s like crack cocaine to them.
            🙂 Peace

          37. We have proven that you are wrong….the words are all still above for anyone that cares.
            You have also proven that you just don’t care at all about the health of our children.
            Of course you disengage….your postings insult the intelligence of anyone with ~3grade reading skills! But you clearly can’t do any better….
            W&N

          38. It gives them an out and they certainly use it and need it to squirm around in the bull excrement.

          39. You have to understand Briandead is a trained proctologist and tends to lean toward his training.

          40. Brian I agree you should definitely receive all the vaccines in the schedule and get them for your children as well.
            Good luck.

        2. “You do realize that means new vaccines are only tested against the ‘old ones’? That’s not a very good control group”
          You do realize that the trials can be read using Google or pubmed or the FDA site….if you actually care about the facts.
          W&N

  3. Obama compares Trump to Hitler without substantiating his claims or reason or motive for this comment!
    Is Obama mentally deranged for making such accusations?
    Should Obama say sorry to Trump for this insult given that the Economy is up?
    https://youtu.be/74_nmzSWq_Y

  4. In an attempt to deflect guilt from Muslim madmen, President Obama said, “Unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ.” Obama’s ignorance is astounding and his comparison is pernicious.

    The Crusades were a defensive Christian reaction against Muslim madmen of the Middle Ages. Here is how Princeton scholar and Islamic expert Bernard Lewis puts it: “At the present time, the Crusades are often depicted as an early expansionist imperialism—a prefigurement of the modern European countries. To people of the time, both Muslim and Christian, they were no such thing.” So what were they? “The Crusade was a delayed response to the jihad, the holy war for Islam, and its purpose was to recover by war what had been lost by war—to free the holy places of Christendom and open them once again, without impediment, to Christian pilgrimage.”

    Regarding the other fable, the Inquisition, the Catholic Church had almost nothing to do with it. The Church saw heretics as lost sheep who needed to be brought back into the fold. By contrast, secular authorities saw heresy as treason; anyone who questioned royal authority, or who challenged the idea that kingship was God-given, was guilty of a capital offense. It was they—not the Church—who burned the heretics. Indeed, secular authorities blasted the Church for its weak role in the Inquisition.

    According to St. Louis University and Crusade scholar Thomas Madden, “All the Crusades met the criteria of just wars.” How many ISIS atrocities, Mr. President, have met the criteria of just wars? The ones where they buried people alive, stoned children, raped women, and crucified men? Moreover, according to Henry Kamen, the leading authority on the Inquisition, a total of 1,394 people were killed during the Inquisition. Today, Muslim madmen kill more than that in a few months.

    The President should apologize for his insulting comparison.
    https://www.catholicleague.org/obama-insults-christians/

  5. So Obama cancelled like Trump canceled his trip to the UK:

    After being called an obscenity by the president of the Philippines, President Obama canceled a meeting with the leader that had been scheduled for Tuesday.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/05/philippine-president-threatens-to-curse-out-obama-obama-calls-him-a-colorful-guy/?utm_term=.98256fd73e81
    President Rodrigo Duterte had threatened to curse out Obama if he raised the issue of extrajudicial killings by Philippine authorities in a sweeping crackdown on drug trafficking. Speaking to reporters, Duterte, who took office in June, said the Philippines is a “sovereign state and we have long ceased to be a colony,”

  6. Trump removes aid money to the Palestinians that accused him of wrongdoing over the embassy issue and Jerusalem….
    Why should the US fund a bunch of Palestinians terrorist that killed a kindergarten child with a rocket over the embassy issue … (US business where they locate their Embassy) , the Muslim council which made similar claims to Trump by claiming Jerusalem as the Capital of Palestine (but no Christians killed any one because of it) also told the US that Trump should disqualified himself in the peace process!
    The Muslim council should also disqualified themselves for the same reasons!
    Given that the UN voted against the US over the embassy issue and Jerusalem in favor of Palestine which not being a state or a Nation should not be represented in the UNITED Nation discussions, the UN should now pick up the aid money shortfall and pay it themselves out of their own money…!
    Why should the US give aid money to the Palestinians when these vandals use it to buy bombs knifes and start fires destroying their own infrastructure and others infrastructure and kill people with it ?

  7. Roger: Thank you for this article. After detailing problems with vaccines in two books, PLAGUE and INOCULATED, as well as breaking the story of Donald Trump’s meeting and picture with Andrew Wakefield (the day after the election and with the permission of Dr. Wakefield), I have been waiting for the day when Trump would fulfill his promise. I KNOW he has had a lot of other things to do first, but am thrilled that you are pressuring him in 2018. Love to talk to you sometime about the efforts that me and some patriot lawyers are making on this front and how we might work together.

    Kent Heckenlively

    1. LOL, Kent. The day you’re taken seriously as anyone but a conspiracy wackjob is the day I leave this country and move to Australia.

      A country you’re banned from, ironically. 🙂

      1. Why don’t you go there now. They have tyrannical style medical mandates and are getting worse everyday. You’d fit right in by the sounds of it.

        1. Interesting they are ranked as one of the healthiest countries in the world with the best healthcare with the same vaccination schedule as the US. It’s almost like our issues have nothing to do with vaccines. 🙂

          Would love to go! Beautiful country and amazing people. Such a shame Kent will never get a chance to go!

          http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/australia-among-top-10-healthiest-countries-in-the-world-global-burden-of-disease-study-shows-20160923-grmyz5.html

          http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-17/australian-healthcare-ranked-second-best-in-developed-world/8716326

          1. Statistics are a way to lie and prove you are telling the truth. Someday John, (although if you haven’t figured it out by now I’m giving you likely too much credit) you will realize just how wrong you are. Maybe it will be when a few more vaccines are added to the already untested and bloated pediatric schedule. Maybe someone closer to you will have a bad experience with vaccines. Heaven forbid maybe you will. You do get your boosters and yearly flu shot’s don’t you John? Or maybe you’ll continue to remain ignorant even in the face of mounting evidence of not only vaccine risk but ever encroaching loss of medial freedom’s and choice. That’s likely the scenario since you cannot even see now. It’s ok. The vaccine war has just begun.

          2. Don’t bother. I’ve dealt with you before. You make me sick Real Truther. Hey, tell me. Who’s on the list of “Real experts” in your letter to Chaffetz? This should be good for a hoot. Is there a vaccine you won’t endorse “real truther?”.. You kill me. Such a clown.. Worse, your clown shoes.

          3. Actually there’s a lot of vaccines myself and even pharma won’t endorse…because they’re not safe or effective enough. Most vaccines are rejected during testing.

            Many other vaccines are improved as new safety data comes in. MMR2 is called MMR2 for a reason.

            How else can you explain AIDS and Alzheimers vaccines being rejected by Pharma? They’d likely profit GAZILLIONS off those.

          4. “By scraping three years’ worth of data, the researchers found that most of the page followers had only liked posts once or twice – the vast majority of the online activity was generated by a smaller group of people. Commenting activity also suggested most users were transient or just occasionally passing through the pages.”

            “Using first names as a rough guide to gender, the study found an average of a 1:3 male to female ratio in terms of users following these pages. In terms of the most active users, men were even more outnumbered.”

            “the list of topics found by the researchers shows strong anti-government and anti-media sentiments in these pages. In other words, conspiracy-style beliefs abound.”

            https://www.sciencealert.com/anti-vaxxer-facebook-dominated-by-women-and-conspiracy-theories

          5. Same small fringe group as always. Just seemingly louder because of social media. Carry on!

          6. “Statistics are a way to lie and prove you are telling the truth.” Do you use that line when you are quoting statistics about US healthcare? You can’t have it both ways. If you blame US healthcare rankings on vaccines then you have to use the same rankings for countries that have the same vaccines schedule like Australia.

            Or Israel.
            https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-israel-s-health-system-better-than-america-s-1.5326461
            http://nocamels.com/2017/04/world-health-day-israel-healthiest/

            I have heard the “someday you will learn how wrong you are” line used for decades. Sorry, that doesn’t fly with me. It’s the same line Holocaust deniers use. Homie don’t play that.

            Yes, I get all my boosters and flu shots as do my entire family. We’re all in excellent health, thanks for asking!

            “The vaccine war has just begun.”

            Nope. It’s still a small echo-chamber cult that nobody takes seriously. As always.

            Carry on!

          7. Yeah you carry on too. I take it VERY seriously as do a LOT of other people I know and the list grows daily. So whatever there DIMco. Carry on,. I can see right through you.. Right through to the other side. You can’t prove a damn thing with statistics. Not a damn thing. Vaccine’s are not the only problem. I don’t blame everything on them. But there IS a problem. And it will become more evident as time goes on regardless of how many conversations you troll.

  8. Thanks Roger, this is a big issue. You can’t make America great with all it’s kids and now adults with so many health problems

  9. Just wondering if anyone else listened to the White House physician Dr.Ronny Jackson give his press conference on President Trumps physical. My understanding is Trump has claimed in the past that he never gets a flu shot. Dr. Jackson stated Trump is up to date immunizations for travel and his influenza vaccine? Also he was given the Twinrix Vax for Hep A+B. Has he lost this God dam mind?

  10. Mr. Stone, I have a question, in your article you say that Brenda Fitzgerald was a bad choice for CDC director by Pres.Trump and that she is pro-vaccine and wants every child vaccinated. . I just finished reading an article by Tim Bolan on the Bolen report and Tim said that Fitzgerald is anti-vaccine and would never vaccinate her patients. He says that she is taking health care to a better place and she is the best thing for Trump and his agenda to take down Pharma. The article says she has a new agenda for health care, “Anti-Aging medicine” which does not include vaccines and it is more in line with Natural Medicine. I would really like to know the answer to this. We have to stop the revolving door.

  11. I voted against Killary. I did actually have hope though that Trump would deliver on his campaign promises. How silly of me. He said whatever he needed to say to get the vote, just like the rest of the dirtbags in Washington. It’s a shame. He could’ve enacted real positive change

    1. You do realize that he’s only a year into his four year term and that he has accomplished much of what he promised, right?

      1. But look at who he has appointed to positions that are likely to remain for his whole presidency. It shows Where he intends to go. Laying the foundation, if you will. I don’t hate the guy. Media is incredibly unfair to him and his family. IDK who is pressuring him. I suppose he is doing the best he can with what he’s got. I’m a very polarized on specific issues voter. Probably Why I’m judging harshly

      2. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! I can hardly breath. He’s destroying this country and agreeing everyone but his wealthiest buddies. This getting screwed too; you’re just too stupid to realize it yet.

    2. Maybe you don’t understand the size of this thing. Most of Trumps base still love their vaccines! Then there’s the public relations concerns. Ppl are gonna freak out! It’s taken decades to get into this current mess. Unfortunately, it’s not gonna go away over night. Research Operation Paperclip. Our fed gov was hijacked in 1945 by Hitler’s “scientists”.

      1. Not just Trump’s base, but also main stream republicans, democrats, socialists and even libertarians are overwhelmingly pro-vaccine. It’s a pretty common-sense issue, and the anti-vaccine movement is only a tiny fringe.

        1. The common-sense here is how a barbaric traditional belief system propped up by garbage science is actually a real-time Holocaust 2.0. Pharm those ignorant conforming cowadish humans for life. They love it.

  12. Glad more doctors are speaking out now even with the chance of being rideculed . Call or write the president and your representatives and demand a non-partial safety commission.

  13. Most recent posts about Robert Kennedy Jr. Show him railing at Pres. Trump about other political issues…so I’d think he might be out of favor as appointee to a special committee to be allowed to do special,investigations DNA reporting on the vaccine industry. We all Needed R. Kennedy to head such a commission, he’s been such a strong supporter of vaccines becoming harmful and has had the political edge and influence to be heard by all the public and government servants. If only Kennedy wouldn’t drag in other political issues to the public…even tho we Know he’s a dyed in the wool Democrat…the impartiallity he started with when taking on vaccines issues Must continue,,separate and apart from politics at large.imo.grandma peg.

    1. Why don’t you try getting your science from actual scientists?
      Why don’t you try fact-checking what Kennedy asserts? I mean other than the fact that he isn’t truthful???
      W&N

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