The 2024 presidential election is only a few days away, and the very predictable abnormalities and irregularities are popping up in battleground states where the vote is most precarious.
I hear all the time that there is election fraud being committed, but what I don't see is anyone collecting the evidence and insuring that those that are engaging in that fraud get convicted of a crime and put in the gray bar hotel! Why do you suppose that is Roger? Is it because no one wants to do the work? Or is that they have no access to anything that would provide proof? Or is it that the allegory is a campaign exercise to drum up some support that is not currently held? I want to see someone prove it, and insure that whoever is engaging in it is prosecuted for it!!!!
Well if you watch the hearings that were held in PA, GA, and AZ after 2020, that's a good start. The Navarro report looks exhaustive although I've only read the summary. Seth Keshel outlines many anomalies. Sure, the exit polling in 2020 did generally line up with the final result, but do you remember how far off exit polling was in 2016? It had Trump losing Ohio (he won by 8%) and losing Florida by 9% (he won by 1%), etc.
But your point is well taken and I make it all the time. Trump likes to brag about how most of law enforcement is secretly on his side, but where were they in 2020 (and 2018 and 2022 for that matter)?
I didn't watch all of the hearings since I prefer the cliff notes, but I understand what you are saying Mark, but there are no convictions of anyone anywhere, and I keep hearing all of the noise but I am not seeing any results. If they ever happen I will be grateful since I do believe that there are a lot of people out there that will do anything to win and not all of it will be legal efforts, or in other words, I do think that there is a lot of fraud but is it enough to swing elections one way or another, that is what I am wondering and concerned about. I am of the opinion that Trump may well have won the election in 2020 if there was sufficient fraud in all the right places, but I doubt that we would ever know the answer to that and I also think that there are players on both sides that are either hiding or allowing the obfuscation of the results of the elections where fraud may have taken place. If you come up with anyone that has been prosecuted and have created enough of a fraudulent election I would love to hear it.
"...but I doubt that we would ever know the answer to that and I also think that there are players on both sides that are either hiding or allowing the obfuscation of the results of the elections where fraud may have taken place."
Yeah, people like Raffensberger and Kemp come to mind. This corruption is on the right too.
It gets deleted every time, as does other similar content. There is a vast network which suppresses information on hot topics such as voter fraud, and even honest judges don't want to touch these issues for fear of retaliation. John Roberts was said to have gotten into a shouting match with Alito over whether to hear a critical election case in 2020. His argument was not that the case had no merit, but that he thought there would be riots in the streets if the election was overturned. It just showed that he knew that if they did rule on the merits, the result would have been overturned easily. Many of these judges think about politics more than the law.
Was there enough fraud to overturn the result? There was so much more than enough. Trump definitely won the popular vote. Keep in mind that a lot of fraud happened in New York, California, and other big blue states to ensure a popular vote victory.
Again, check out the Navarro report. It's 87 pages.
But I am with you, there needs to be a thorough investigation and people need to be held accountable. Not just of 2020, but also of 2018, 2022, and of course 2024. I would say they should even go further back than that. I strongly believe republicans would have over 60 seats in the Senate right now if elections had been even mostly fair since 2016. Ayotte, Rosendale, McSally, James, Perdue, Oz, Laxalt, and many others had elections stolen from them. The beauty of this theft is that it changes the whole narrative. Certain narratives will crumble so quickly if the truth of these elections is brought to light. The Trump is toxic narrative after the most recent midterms would have been turned on its head if the final results were accurate (they left Florida alone to prop up DeSantis). Every news outlet and politician and prosecutor who has gone after "election deniers" will be immediately discredited. Trump has played his cards so that the whole damn corrupt system can be brought down in one fell swoop because the public will finally be able to see the truth and see who the liars really are. Once 65-70% of the public turns against this system it will be hard to maintain. The only thing keeping it afloat are its lies.
And I hope the corrupt players in the public health establishment go down with it. Things are theoretically lining up for those things to happen. Theoretically, it would be so easy. Trump knows exactly what to do. So does RFK. It takes time for leaders to bring people out of their trance and wake them up. Fact is, the forces they are going up against are willing to kill and cause a lot of suffering. It's a battle of wills, I think, a battle for the hearts and minds of the people. I think they figured they could ruin Trump as a human and then put their foot back on the throat of every day people, but it's not really working out that way, is it?
I have faith, but we all have to stay engaged and pay attention moving forward. We have to stand for what is right, and forgive those who know not what they've done.
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Before I moved out of Michigan, I tried for years to show Republicans on the state level my analyses of Michigan official voter rolls and US Census data, county by county. In particular, Wayne and Oakland had more than 100,000 excess of registered voters than voting-age citizens (not even counting those who were ineligible for whatever reason). I became convinced that while local Republican branches did have to deal with RINOs, the higher levels were controlled by RINOs , the Deep State. For years, generally conservative Republicans won at the local level, which included majorities of both legislative houses, only to lose almost every statewide election. Michigan's full Californization was locked in with the 2018 election.
Lord you are powerful enough to shut this down we have no fear we know you will establish the right people in the right places as needed. This is child’s play for you Lord. I trust your chosen path for us. People just have to turn back to you and everything will be OK. Amen.
"The movement has learned from the failures in the 2020 presidential race and will be more effective in their roles this time around."
Why weren't they more effective in 2022? That was totally deflating. Does anyone really believe that DeSantis performed 20 points better than Lake in Arizona? They left Florida alone to prop up DeSanctis.
I hear all the time that there is election fraud being committed, but what I don't see is anyone collecting the evidence and insuring that those that are engaging in that fraud get convicted of a crime and put in the gray bar hotel! Why do you suppose that is Roger? Is it because no one wants to do the work? Or is that they have no access to anything that would provide proof? Or is it that the allegory is a campaign exercise to drum up some support that is not currently held? I want to see someone prove it, and insure that whoever is engaging in it is prosecuted for it!!!!
Well if you watch the hearings that were held in PA, GA, and AZ after 2020, that's a good start. The Navarro report looks exhaustive although I've only read the summary. Seth Keshel outlines many anomalies. Sure, the exit polling in 2020 did generally line up with the final result, but do you remember how far off exit polling was in 2016? It had Trump losing Ohio (he won by 8%) and losing Florida by 9% (he won by 1%), etc.
But your point is well taken and I make it all the time. Trump likes to brag about how most of law enforcement is secretly on his side, but where were they in 2020 (and 2018 and 2022 for that matter)?
I didn't watch all of the hearings since I prefer the cliff notes, but I understand what you are saying Mark, but there are no convictions of anyone anywhere, and I keep hearing all of the noise but I am not seeing any results. If they ever happen I will be grateful since I do believe that there are a lot of people out there that will do anything to win and not all of it will be legal efforts, or in other words, I do think that there is a lot of fraud but is it enough to swing elections one way or another, that is what I am wondering and concerned about. I am of the opinion that Trump may well have won the election in 2020 if there was sufficient fraud in all the right places, but I doubt that we would ever know the answer to that and I also think that there are players on both sides that are either hiding or allowing the obfuscation of the results of the elections where fraud may have taken place. If you come up with anyone that has been prosecuted and have created enough of a fraudulent election I would love to hear it.
"...but I doubt that we would ever know the answer to that and I also think that there are players on both sides that are either hiding or allowing the obfuscation of the results of the elections where fraud may have taken place."
Yeah, people like Raffensberger and Kemp come to mind. This corruption is on the right too.
Sending out 80 million ballots is just inviting fraud. https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/one_in_five_mail_in_voters_admit_they_cheated_in_2020_election
The fact that no one has been prosecuted means nothing. The justice system is very corrupt. Social media is corrupt. I can't post a simple meta study showing how if everyone had a vitamin D level above 50ng/ul, there would have been no covid pandemic. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8541492/?fbclid=IwAR0Tjf5UusEkpEw2plPHKkBSEnGFBlugknsEILY9t8OGRFRH3rzKTV5eF-8
It gets deleted every time, as does other similar content. There is a vast network which suppresses information on hot topics such as voter fraud, and even honest judges don't want to touch these issues for fear of retaliation. John Roberts was said to have gotten into a shouting match with Alito over whether to hear a critical election case in 2020. His argument was not that the case had no merit, but that he thought there would be riots in the streets if the election was overturned. It just showed that he knew that if they did rule on the merits, the result would have been overturned easily. Many of these judges think about politics more than the law.
Was there enough fraud to overturn the result? There was so much more than enough. Trump definitely won the popular vote. Keep in mind that a lot of fraud happened in New York, California, and other big blue states to ensure a popular vote victory.
Again, check out the Navarro report. It's 87 pages.
But I am with you, there needs to be a thorough investigation and people need to be held accountable. Not just of 2020, but also of 2018, 2022, and of course 2024. I would say they should even go further back than that. I strongly believe republicans would have over 60 seats in the Senate right now if elections had been even mostly fair since 2016. Ayotte, Rosendale, McSally, James, Perdue, Oz, Laxalt, and many others had elections stolen from them. The beauty of this theft is that it changes the whole narrative. Certain narratives will crumble so quickly if the truth of these elections is brought to light. The Trump is toxic narrative after the most recent midterms would have been turned on its head if the final results were accurate (they left Florida alone to prop up DeSantis). Every news outlet and politician and prosecutor who has gone after "election deniers" will be immediately discredited. Trump has played his cards so that the whole damn corrupt system can be brought down in one fell swoop because the public will finally be able to see the truth and see who the liars really are. Once 65-70% of the public turns against this system it will be hard to maintain. The only thing keeping it afloat are its lies.
And I hope the corrupt players in the public health establishment go down with it. Things are theoretically lining up for those things to happen. Theoretically, it would be so easy. Trump knows exactly what to do. So does RFK. It takes time for leaders to bring people out of their trance and wake them up. Fact is, the forces they are going up against are willing to kill and cause a lot of suffering. It's a battle of wills, I think, a battle for the hearts and minds of the people. I think they figured they could ruin Trump as a human and then put their foot back on the throat of every day people, but it's not really working out that way, is it?
I have faith, but we all have to stay engaged and pay attention moving forward. We have to stand for what is right, and forgive those who know not what they've done.
BEWARE OF (rebuilt) 15 century Blvd Suite307 Nashville, Tn 37214 BEWARE OF (rebuilt) 15 century Blvd Suite307 Nashville, Tn 37214 they take pictures of you and yer properties and broadcast kinda like the left lib globallassed do. REPOSTED BY GK ? SOUNDS LIKE WHAT GOOGLE GOT SUED FOR
Before I moved out of Michigan, I tried for years to show Republicans on the state level my analyses of Michigan official voter rolls and US Census data, county by county. In particular, Wayne and Oakland had more than 100,000 excess of registered voters than voting-age citizens (not even counting those who were ineligible for whatever reason). I became convinced that while local Republican branches did have to deal with RINOs, the higher levels were controlled by RINOs , the Deep State. For years, generally conservative Republicans won at the local level, which included majorities of both legislative houses, only to lose almost every statewide election. Michigan's full Californization was locked in with the 2018 election.
Their greatest vulnerability is social disgrace.
Understand that, and you understand what to show up to the fight with.
Lord you are powerful enough to shut this down we have no fear we know you will establish the right people in the right places as needed. This is child’s play for you Lord. I trust your chosen path for us. People just have to turn back to you and everything will be OK. Amen.
I know they will do all they can illegally but sure hope the Trump supporters are so great in numbers that the left cannot win.
"The movement has learned from the failures in the 2020 presidential race and will be more effective in their roles this time around."
Why weren't they more effective in 2022? That was totally deflating. Does anyone really believe that DeSantis performed 20 points better than Lake in Arizona? They left Florida alone to prop up DeSanctis.